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Latakia syrien
Je lisais hier un truc sur le Net où il était expliqué que le Latakia syrien n'existe plus depuis la fin des années 60, date à laquelle le gouvernement de ce pays en aurait interdit la production.
(Cette interdition visant à protéger les forêts, puisque la préparation de ce tabac, fumé, exigeait la coupe de nombreux arbres - probablement de certaines essences d'arbres.)
J'ai cherché aujourd'hui une confirmation de cette nouvelle, mais n'en ai pas trouvé.
Quelqu'un en sait davantage à ce sujet?
(Cette interdition visant à protéger les forêts, puisque la préparation de ce tabac, fumé, exigeait la coupe de nombreux arbres - probablement de certaines essences d'arbres.)
J'ai cherché aujourd'hui une confirmation de cette nouvelle, mais n'en ai pas trouvé.
Quelqu'un en sait davantage à ce sujet?
Cyl- TBfan
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Age : 70
Localisation : Québec
Date d'inscription : 02/11/2008
Re: Latakia syrien
Il se trouve que j'ai un correspondant en Syrie, je peux toujours essayer de lui poser la question...
Invité- Invité
Re: Latakia syrien
Je n'ai pas d'information particulière, mais je trouve cela étonnant.
Non, seulement il se trouve toujours des mélanges prétendus contenir du Latakia Syrien, mais surtout que l'on se remémore le "drame" vécu par G.L.Pease il y a quelques années lorsque les entrepôts de son fournisseur de Latakia Syrien ont crâmé. Pease est peut-être un show-off, mais je ne pense pas que ce soit un menteur doublé d'un escroc. Il y avait donc production et exportation de Latakia Syrien (je ne pense pas que son fournisseur lui fourguait du tabac datant des années 60).
Ce même Pease a retrouvé une source de Latakia Syrien, et produit de nouveaux mélanges avec.
Non, seulement il se trouve toujours des mélanges prétendus contenir du Latakia Syrien, mais surtout que l'on se remémore le "drame" vécu par G.L.Pease il y a quelques années lorsque les entrepôts de son fournisseur de Latakia Syrien ont crâmé. Pease est peut-être un show-off, mais je ne pense pas que ce soit un menteur doublé d'un escroc. Il y avait donc production et exportation de Latakia Syrien (je ne pense pas que son fournisseur lui fourguait du tabac datant des années 60).
Ce même Pease a retrouvé une source de Latakia Syrien, et produit de nouveaux mélanges avec.
Dernière édition par Antoine C. le Ven 23 Jan - 20:04, édité 1 fois
Re: Latakia syrien
de plus, le sèchage au feu du Latakia utilise du pin, qui pousse comme du chiendent tout autour de la méditerranée...
Philplessis- TBphile
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Date d'inscription : 05/11/2008
Re: Latakia syrien
Oui. En lisant ça, je me suis dit que ce qui s'était peut-être produit, c'est une restriction ou une réglementation plus sévère, ce qui est différent d'une pure et simple interdiction.
Mais j'aimerais quand même bien en savoir davantage.
Mais j'aimerais quand même bien en savoir davantage.
Cyl- TBfan
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Age : 70
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Date d'inscription : 02/11/2008
Re: Latakia syrien
Moi je dis "Du latakia Syrien sinon rien".
Vrai quoi, non mais, finalement, on se ... à ...
et de plus ... c' est certain !
Vrai quoi, non mais, finalement, on se ... à ...
et de plus ... c' est certain !
Calabash- Administrateur
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Re: Latakia syrien
En fait il "a dû" être interdit à l'exportation (ou embargo-ifié), mais ne l'est plus... :
G.L.P. - 1998 :
"For many years, Syrian Latakia
has been virtually unobtainable."
"It has been rare, in recent
times, that the pipe smoking community has gotten any truly great
news, especially concerning tobacco. The arrival of Syrian Latakia
to our shores should be met with Champagne toasts and a ribbon
cutting ceremony, though we must not forget to honor the reigning
sovereign from Cyprus."
2006 - McClelland's :
"You know, we didn't offer
Syrian Latakia for a number of years after having made some wonderful
blends for the late Barry Levin. The samples shown us in the
intervening years were not of the quality we wanted. Production in
Syria has been on-again, off-again, and of variable quality for many
years.
Then one of our importers called with news that he had
access to the finest and was trying to put together an order large
enough to warrant bringing it over. Finally, several companies went in
on the deal in 2003 and the importer brought in a large shipment. We
were all very pleased because the quality was excellent. About that
time, there were rumors of an embargo, so we doubled our order and paid
for our portion and had it moved from the importer's warehouse and put
in our own storage.
Several weeks after that, we learned that
the importer's stock and a, by comparison, small amount belonging to
other companies that they had not yet removed had burned in a warehouse
fire. Then we learned that the Syrians our importer deals with have
ceased production for reasons we haven't been able to determine. The
consequence is that we apparently have just about the only supply of
Syrian Latakia in the U.S. It is unique in aroma and flavor and we are
grateful to have it.
We use Syrian Latakia in four products
and we expect it to last about three years. We are actively searching
for another supply, and we are sure the other companies that use it are
doing this as well. The products in the McClelland line that use Syrian
Latakia are: Rose of Latakia, Syrian Full Balkan, Syrian Super Balkan
and FrogMorton Across the Pond."
G.L.P. - 1998 :
"For many years, Syrian Latakia
has been virtually unobtainable."
"It has been rare, in recent
times, that the pipe smoking community has gotten any truly great
news, especially concerning tobacco. The arrival of Syrian Latakia
to our shores should be met with Champagne toasts and a ribbon
cutting ceremony, though we must not forget to honor the reigning
sovereign from Cyprus."
2006 - McClelland's :
"You know, we didn't offer
Syrian Latakia for a number of years after having made some wonderful
blends for the late Barry Levin. The samples shown us in the
intervening years were not of the quality we wanted. Production in
Syria has been on-again, off-again, and of variable quality for many
years.
Then one of our importers called with news that he had
access to the finest and was trying to put together an order large
enough to warrant bringing it over. Finally, several companies went in
on the deal in 2003 and the importer brought in a large shipment. We
were all very pleased because the quality was excellent. About that
time, there were rumors of an embargo, so we doubled our order and paid
for our portion and had it moved from the importer's warehouse and put
in our own storage.
Several weeks after that, we learned that
the importer's stock and a, by comparison, small amount belonging to
other companies that they had not yet removed had burned in a warehouse
fire. Then we learned that the Syrians our importer deals with have
ceased production for reasons we haven't been able to determine. The
consequence is that we apparently have just about the only supply of
Syrian Latakia in the U.S. It is unique in aroma and flavor and we are
grateful to have it.
We use Syrian Latakia in four products
and we expect it to last about three years. We are actively searching
for another supply, and we are sure the other companies that use it are
doing this as well. The products in the McClelland line that use Syrian
Latakia are: Rose of Latakia, Syrian Full Balkan, Syrian Super Balkan
and FrogMorton Across the Pond."
Re: Latakia syrien
Philplessis a écrit:de plus, le sèchage au feu du Latakia utilise du pin, qui pousse comme du chiendent tout autour de la méditerranée...
La particularité du syrien c'est qu'ils utilisent principalement du chêne de Syrie
Alain- Administrateur
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Date d'inscription : 06/11/2008
Re: Latakia syrien
GL Pease 2008
Syrian and Cyprian Latakia are quite different in taste, aroma and character. I wrote this article about 10 years ago, when Syrian Latakia was first re-introduced to the pipe world. It's still mostly relevant.
There's a lot of misapprehension about Syrian Latakia today. I've been sent samples of some really bad examples of the "real thing," and other samples that were no more Syrian than I am. I've also tasted several European products claiming the inclusion of Syrian leaf, and in some cases, have found these claims highly suspect.
The search for quality Syrian continues. (A couple of manufacturers have stores of vintage Syrian leaf that is of the same superb quality as the stuff we lost in the now legendary warehouse fire. There's no knowing how long their supplies will last, or what will happen when they run out. And, no, they won't sell any to me. I've tried...)
Syrian and Cyprian ARE dramatically different. They're produced from different leaf, and they're fumigated over the smoke from different woods. Cyprian is sweeter, more weighty, deeper. Syrian is more winey, drier, and spicier. They're each wonderful, when used in such a way as to bring out their individual strengths.
The Sobranie blends were most certainly done with Syrian until some point in the 1960s, at which time, or so the history goes, the production of Syrian either completely halted or was seriously curtailed. My suspicion is that considerable factory stores of Syrian were gradually diluted with Cyprian leaf until nothing but Cyprian was used. (This conjecture is based solely upon having tasted many different vintages of Balkan Sobranie over the years, not on any insider information. Wink Certainly by the late 1960s, perhaps sooner, the Cyprian was singing solo in the blend.
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Gregory L. Pease
Syrian and Cyprian Latakia are quite different in taste, aroma and character. I wrote this article about 10 years ago, when Syrian Latakia was first re-introduced to the pipe world. It's still mostly relevant.
There's a lot of misapprehension about Syrian Latakia today. I've been sent samples of some really bad examples of the "real thing," and other samples that were no more Syrian than I am. I've also tasted several European products claiming the inclusion of Syrian leaf, and in some cases, have found these claims highly suspect.
The search for quality Syrian continues. (A couple of manufacturers have stores of vintage Syrian leaf that is of the same superb quality as the stuff we lost in the now legendary warehouse fire. There's no knowing how long their supplies will last, or what will happen when they run out. And, no, they won't sell any to me. I've tried...)
Syrian and Cyprian ARE dramatically different. They're produced from different leaf, and they're fumigated over the smoke from different woods. Cyprian is sweeter, more weighty, deeper. Syrian is more winey, drier, and spicier. They're each wonderful, when used in such a way as to bring out their individual strengths.
The Sobranie blends were most certainly done with Syrian until some point in the 1960s, at which time, or so the history goes, the production of Syrian either completely halted or was seriously curtailed. My suspicion is that considerable factory stores of Syrian were gradually diluted with Cyprian leaf until nothing but Cyprian was used. (This conjecture is based solely upon having tasted many different vintages of Balkan Sobranie over the years, not on any insider information. Wink Certainly by the late 1960s, perhaps sooner, the Cyprian was singing solo in the blend.
_________________
Gregory L. Pease
Alain- Administrateur
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Date d'inscription : 06/11/2008
Re: Latakia syrien
Merci Alain et Antoine.
Comme il fallait s'en douter, c'est une histoire complexe dont tous les détails ne sont pas tirés au clair.
C'est bien, je trouve, cette aura de mystère qui plane constamment sur le petit monde de la pipe. Ça lui va bien.
Comme il fallait s'en douter, c'est une histoire complexe dont tous les détails ne sont pas tirés au clair.
C'est bien, je trouve, cette aura de mystère qui plane constamment sur le petit monde de la pipe. Ça lui va bien.
Cyl- TBfan
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